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Blizzard has published a very specific request for feedback on StarCraft2.com. Having designed two different yet equally suitable Dark Templar unit models, Blizzard is leaving it up to the fans to decide which one should appear in StarCraft 2 Multiplayer matches.
Different clans take great pains to distinguish themselves through variations in weapons, armor, markings, and dress. For example, the famed hunters of the Zer’atai dress in the bones of slain zerg; the Boros are known for their blank-faced helms and heavy armor; and the Lenassa wear distinctive cloth wrappings and bear wickedly curved warp blades.
The first option represents the Lenassa tribe of dark templar, which made its debut in the original StarCraft. This unit carries a single warp blade, and a cloth shroud covers its face.
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The second option represents the Zer’atai tribe of dark templar, who wield dual scythes and wear an ensemble of heavy armor and the bones of slain zerg.
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The third and final option is to have both tribes represented: When you build a dark templar, either the Lenassa or Zer’atai dark templar would spawn randomly.
The dilemma is not complex; it is one which most companies solve behind the corporate curtains, often ending up picking the wrong model due to simply not having the tradition of crowdsourcing certain design decisions. That’s not the case with Blizzard, who often seeks direct feedback from their fans. This is another one of these occasions, so get out there and make your voice heard.
The SC2Blog, devout proponents of democracy, will also be hosting a poll on the subject.
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39 Comments to “Dark Democracy – a Vote for Protoss Dark Templar Design”
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I would have liked to have seen the single blade dark templar with the zerg armor.
Apart from the weapons, they look pretty similar. Although, the idea of both coming out randomly is a little odd.
Unfortunately for my tastes this is currently the most voted option…
I am liking the ‘both’ option very much. Doesn’t seem odd to me. DT’s are more casual than the uniform Zealots so it could actually be more natural
I also support the novelty of it. I think Blizzard should experiment more with diversity. E.G: Marines with more personalized armor, Zerglings in different shapes. It improves the character of those units
Both that was my choice both are godd design and the faces are awesome i liked blizzard care about fans this choice “Both” was nice
Looks like the first DT is almost sleeping hauahuahuahuaha nice looks his face hauhauahuaha LOL or High hauahuahauhauhauhauha
It would be cool is a person could choose whether they got 1, 2 or both from a button in the menu. That way, everyone would be happy.
On the other hand, it would also be really good if they had an option 3 for all other units, though with less drastic changes. E.g., zerg units which are slightly more deformed, or battlecruisers with personalised hulls.
Hmm, I suppose so. It’s good that other people like the ‘both’ option, If there were multiple types for each unit then maybe I wouldn’t find it as odd.
Although, if my machine is running out of memory, I’ll say ‘Damn you dark templar variations!’
I like them both very much. If i had to choose, i would say the Zer’atai tribe, but with only a single blade scythe, and the facial mask. I dunno about both randomly spawning from gateways. What would be better, is if they spawned differently, depending on the map’s tileset.
Don’t just vote here guys, this is just a poll. If you want to make a difference you have to go to http://www.starcraft.com and then register and vote on the Bnet forrums!
Im sorry, that should be http://www.starcraft2.com ><
I like N00bc4nnon’s proposal.
Both
Hmm, linked to tileset… but they kind of get warped in from somewhere else… rather than being native protoss who have joined the fight
Why not have a whole new unit?
afterall, Terrans has marauders and reapers and marines.
have the first one the good old DT.
the other one is a sneaky fast / weak armor / weaker attack version with moderate spell casting abilities? like bring feedback back. etc?
It seems the BOTH solution is going to win. I am more for the one version model – the first or the second. The both could maybe confuse players.
I think the ideal implementation of the BOTH system should be a mechanic that only spawns one model in a game, and not a random ingame spawn (of the 2 models). Whenever I start a game one of the 2 is picked to be shown.
What do you think?
One problem which could arise with having both, is their attack animations. If the timing of the two tribe’s attacks were different, then we could end up with two dramatically different units on our hands, which could potentially leave players in a situation of sitting in their base, wishing for one kind to spawn but not the other!
I am for the 2 option. The first one is not bad, but his attack is so similar to zealot. Dark Templar is cooler than zealot, distinguish himself with his double blade of the death.
The design for dark templar should be more dark elegant. The dark factor is there, but elegant not jet. Without it, a dark templar looks just like a beggar.
Is that really what they look like under the cloak? It’s horrendous. They look gangly, cartoony, and awkward. I vote neither, and please get some non warcraft animators on staff.
I’m sure the attack timing will be identical.
What Joe said. Blizzard aren’t that stupid. I like both and apparently so does the majority.
exactly, both of them all the way. it would be interesting to see them both. there both bad@$$
and the Anonymous guy. shut the hell up
what ever happened to Blizzard hiding Raynor in the screenshots…I miss looking around for him like a Waldo game.
used to be a lot of fun finding out where he was hiding in the brush overlooking the field.
Maybe you just haven’t found him in the recent ones.
I like the original the most, and the portrait is the most suiting, but the second one’s scythe seems to distinguish it a lot more.
I like the idea of random unit variety though, but I don’t think the Dark Templar is the right choice for that. I’d like to see the unit variety on some of the Terran units though, with maybe some marines with “BADASS” written on their shoulders, or the battlecruisers having some minor model variety.
Protoss has always seemed to me like a much more organized race, and I don’t think Dark Templar variety would suit it very well.
“Protoss has always seemed to me like a much more organized race, and I don’t think Dark Templar variety would suit it very well.”
Normally I would agree, but after the fall of Aiur and the reintegration of the Protoss with Shakuras, I think having some variety in the Dark Templar might reflect some of the chaos that the Protoss are experiencing right now.
Personally, I’m torn between the three options. The Lenassa has that great classic feel, while the Zer’atai feel more distinct when compared to zealots. I would agree, however, that if both are going to be randomly available that we should see more variation in the other two races’ units, like the suggested details of posters above.
I am, however, left wondering why Blizzard described the Boros clan’s standard dress but didn’t give us a model or present them as an option. Are they going to be represented by a unique DT unit in the single-player campaign, and if so, would they represent a third option, especially if the Dark Templar’s appearance is decided randomly when you build one? Personally, I think having one of three kinds of DT show up on the field would feel more natural than having it choose between two models. Maybe that’s just me, but it would feel more like real unit diversity and less “well, we can’t decide what the new Dark Templar should look like so let’s just stick them both in.”
I voted for both options…
The first DT is the classic of course, the bone armored ones have that new mysterious feel about them.
I couldn’t imagine the game without either of them, would be interesting to see if that 3rd DT clan, the ones that have heavy armor and plain face plates make an appearance as well.
how about… one is the upgrade of the other?
once an upgrade is done, the DT gets a weapon and and better armor?
this way we satisfy everyone and gives it some sense.
@batttlarmd:
1. The reason Blizzard is doing all this is that some people complained that the Dual-Bladed Scythe model looked stupid compared to the previous version. So they made a model of the original one, and now they don’t want to waste all the work done on the previous one. Which is why they’re asking people if they’d like to see both in the game.
2. Having only the DTs get model changes with upgrades makes no sense. People would wonder why the other models aren’t affected by upgrades, and would call Blizzard lazy. I doubt Blizzard is prepared to make alternate models for every unit in the game at this point.
Maybe they would spawn differently depending on which color or army do you have, depending of which tribe you are playing with?
“which color OF army”
sorry
but marines does look different with shield upgrades…
right?
I think they both look stupid.
the original one is just the one in SC1. fine, if they want no change.
the second one is a slack job from the animators, I don’t see the heart in it. I mean while would protoss use a -dual scythe- makes no sense. Looks like a bad attempt is creating originality, the weapon has such a small attack surface it’s stupid. scrap it.
They are DARK TEMPLARS, if they will use any weapons, it will be a Psi-Sword, two of them if they want. That might at least win some respect from the readers.
the boros was included to prepare the SC lore for a SC MMO… they’re just filling in some gaps so that everything would fit for an MMO…
ok ok, before we make any more conclusions, look again at the two faces and models.
FACE
1st, honestly, they look like some mutated Militia Squad from C&C Tiberium Wars.
2nd is just better, nicer, cooler and more dark templar-ish.
Suggestion: Go for the second face
MODEL
1st, the shoulders obviously looks too bulky, and they don’t look like stealth soldiers.
2nd, first thing’s first, DUAL-SCYTHE BLADES are NOT SILLY!!! It’s a good idea IMO, but the model…it seems to have lost it’s DT feel.
Suggestion: Whatever happened to the DT robe that flies behind them when they run? I agree with some, they look like they were created by WC3 designers. Somehow, this 2 models look totally different than some artwork in starcraft2.com.
I prefer that you get one model, and that both be left in the game.
Every protoss player would randomly select one model at the start of game.
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doesn’t matter, the purpose is strategy and use them in battle, not staring at your units until your opponent(s) rush on your base.
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