If it were slower, like the vulture, then they would be slightly less effective. (ever so slightly) They would still always hit, but enemy would have more chance to attack before dying.

That would leave marines with instant missle speed, good for Assault units. Maurader meanwhile is better as support unit, and Ghost as special unit.

I’d love a smokey trail on their missle too! Give more character to the weapon.

John, colossus can do something on it’s own, I’m sure, I don’t think that the video resembles it’s true power, it’s a support unit not a heavy hitter nor Shuttle+Reaver.

Rad, I know, Colossus is not like Shuttle+reaver, but… the game has changed SO MUCH, so i agree with you It’s not a farçir comparison.

Regarding to S+R combo, they are some things we should remember before comparing:

S+R+corsairs is a matchup, I mean, i’ts for a match which limits other tech posibilities due to resources.
It’s true that a single Reaver can do something, but it’s weak on it’s own, even with a suttle, the real combo needed corsairs, so, you need extra units, like it or not. That combo twisted (I think) the role of a support unit to a first line-economy raider unit. I think Blizzard wants to “balance” and keep this kind of strategy.

But after all, we have only seen a video of Star2 and colossus vs 10 years of BW progaming, we don’t really know if the colossus is going to be “stand and shoot” forever, kind of thing, so it’s to early to know

one more thing, one shuttle + reaver surely takes the same time or more than building 1 colossus.

I prefer R+S too, I agree that it was more fun to play with and against, but… the game is another universe right here, until playing it… dk

There are drawbacks too, though.
Reavers are quite fragile. Reavers require considerable micro. Reavers, and even Shuttles until you upgrade them, move quite slowly. Reavers have a long cooldown between shots. Each Reaver shot costs minerals.
Most of these went a long way in making the unit interesting for me.

All said and done, I prefer Reaver-Shuttle. Your mileage may vary.

>having 3-4 colossus would surely make you win every battle.

That’s what is required now too, get 12 of these and it will toast everyone… BLAH, you need a unit that’s able to do ’something’ on it’s own, any unit that’s suppose to be a seige unit, but needs 3-4 to do anything meanwhile.. then… well..

I think upping the colossus attack is a good idea, maybe not three times, or maybe just have the initial unit getting hit feeling more pain. Like, first unit getting hit takes 80 damage, then the splash is 30 across.

Adding a longer cool down to a heavier hit is also a way to balance as well.

before all we should understand the role of the colossus, it’s a support unit, I agree with “it’s so un-protoss”, because protoss haven’t used to have support units. I think is good the way it is, including they Air-to-air weakness.

And te protoss do have a heavy hitter, it’s called Psi Storm

The game looks and fells wonderfull from the video, can’t wait to play it xD

but yes, the colossus seems extremely useless, I mean, even the commentator mentioned that ‘you need a few of these’. I find such a unit very UN-protoss like, they should UP the beam power 3 times, and slow the cool down 3 times as well. If the colossus can kill workers/low tier units in 1 hit, there’s still some use for them. And stop letting air-to-air attacks hit them already, it is not like they need the weakness.

Thor we have yet to see in true action, same with seige tanks.

I also agree Marauders are too spammable, if they don’t hit Air, then that is still ok though, just a heavy ground marine.